MKV embedded subs with Haali's Splitter ? / Seamless Playback with mp3 ?

[scratchy]

hi there,

got 2 questions if you don't mind :D

1)is it possible to use KMP's subtitles functions with Haali's Media Splitter ?
seems to only work with the "KMP Matroska Reader"

2)is it possible to use the "seamless playback" function with audio files ?!
it seems to only work for videos :(

Thanks,

[mad]

got 2 questions if you don't mind
Nope :)
1)is it possible to use KMP's subtitles functions with Haali's Media Splitter ?
seems to only work with the "KMP Matroska Reader"

Yep, no problem (see screenshots)
2)is it possible to use the "seamless playback" function with audio files ?!
it seems to only work for videos
If I am correct, there is no such function for audio. But I could be wrong, as I dont use that function and I dont use KMP for audio playback.

[scratchy]

ok cool thanks for the screenshots.

but I don't have any subs with these options and Haali's Splitter....they don't show.

only works with KMP Matroska Reader :(

I've tried to change overlay/on image for the subs, and I'm in High Speed Mode

it doesn't show "embedded subtitles" like on your screenshot ?!

[Pantuflo]

Press Ctrl+Tab while playing the video (with Haali's Splitter) and paste here the report obtained.

[scratchy]

ok then :)

this is w/ the KMP Matroska Reader, subs work fine :

[Primary Filtergraph]
0) - KMP Matroska Reader
1) - KMP AVI<->AC3/DTS Transform(low merit)
2) - Sonic Cinemaster® Audio Decoder 4.2
3) - ffdshow Video Decoder
4) - ffdshow Audio Decoder
5) - Haali's Video Renderer
6) - ReClock Audio Renderer

[Video Info]
Decoder - (MPEG2) ffdshow Video Decoder
Format - Major Type: Video - Sub Type: RGB32
VideoInfo2: RGB 1280X-768, 32 bits

[Audio Info]
Decoder - (0x2000) Sonic Cinemaster® Audio Decoder 4.2
Format - Major Type: Audio - Sub Type: PCM
WaveFormatEx: PCM(0x1), 48000 Hz, 16 Bits, 2 Ch

[Basic Video DSP]
Internal brightness: 100%

[Advanced Video DSP]
+Video Plugin

[Audio DSP]
+Pre amplification: Main: (100%)
+Audio Plugin

[Subtitle Settings]
+Draw Mode(Selected): VMR
+Draw Mode(In use): VMR(Renderless)
+Text Rendering Method: Rasterizer
+Support HTML Tags(SMI)

[KMPlayer]
+Version: 2.9.3.1429(5,559,296, 12/16/2007 9:55:38 PM)
+libcodec.dll: Exist(4,459,520, 12/16/2007 1:07:46 AM)
+libmplay.dll: Exist(438,784, 8/21/2007 11:11:32 PM)
+PProcDLL.dll: Exist(1,769,472, 12/1/2007 12:52:44 AM)
+LibDTS.dll: Exist(144,384, 5/24/2007 10:01:04 AM)
+liba52.dll: Exist(56,320, 5/24/2007 10:00:52 AM)
+libfaad2.dll: Exist(212,480, 5/24/2007 10:00:28 AM)
+libmad.dll: Exist(92,672, 5/24/2007 10:01:18 AM)
+libmpeg2.dll: Exist(126,464, 5/24/2007 10:01:46 AM)
+theora.dll: Exist(196,608, 4/13/2007 9:46:04 AM)
+OggVorbis.dll: Exist(1,165,312, 5/24/2007 10:08:26 AM)
+xviddll.dll: Exist(655,872, 7/29/2007 2:11:58 AM)
+Old_QUARTZ.DLL: Exist(770,048, 5/5/1999 11:22:00 PM)
+AboutDll.dll: Exist(105,472, 10/3/2005 3:12:18 PM)
+DTView.dll: Exist(104,448, 11/20/2006 10:33:20 PM)
+MPlayer.dll: Missed
+ImLoader.dll: Exist(856,064, 1/15/2006 3:21:26 PM)


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[File Info]
--------------------
General
Complete name : Bee.Movie.mkv
Format : Mk
File size : 2.92 GiB
PlayTime : 1h 30mn
Bit rate : 4602 Kbps
Movie name : Bee Movie (2007)
Encoded date : UTC 2008-04-27 20:14:13
Writing application : mkvmerge v2.2.0 ('Turn It On Again') built on Mar 4 2008 12:58:26
Writing library : libebml v0.7.7 + libmatroska v0.8.1
Video #1
Codec : MPEG-4 AVC
Codec/Info : MPEG4 ISO advanced profile
PlayTime : 1h 30mn
Width : 1272 pixels
Height : 712 pixels
Display Aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Language : English
Audio #2
Codec : AC3
Codec/Info : Dolby AC3
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Sampling rate : 48 KHz
Language : English
Audio #5
Codec : A_AAC
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 48 KHz
Title : Director Comments
Language : English
Text #3
Codec : UTF-8
Codec/Info : UTF-8 Plain Text
Language : English
Text #4
Codec : UTF-8
Codec/Info : UTF-8 Plain Text
Language : Norwegian Nynorsk
Chapters
Language : English

--------------------
[System Info]
--------------------
CPU 0: 3457MHz, Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E4700 @ 2.60GHz, x86 Family 6 Model 15 Stepping 11
CPU 1: 3458MHz, Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E4700 @ 2.60GHz, x86 Family 6 Model 15 Stepping 11
OS: Windows XP Professional(Version 5.1 Build 2600) Service Pack 2
Video: ATI Radeon HD 2600 PRO

DirectX: 9.0c(4.09.00.0904)
Memory: All: 2,096,492 KB, Available: 1,441,396 KB, Used: 31%
CodePage: 1252, Charset:1
Instruction: MMX MMX2 SSE SSE2 SSE3 64Bits

this is with Haali's Splitter, subs don't show...and I've enabled the options you told me :

[Primary Filtergraph]
0) - Halli Media Splitter
1) - Sonic Cinemaster® Audio Decoder 4.2
2) - ffdshow Video Decoder
3) - ffdshow Audio Decoder
4) - Haali's Video Renderer
5) - ReClock Audio Renderer

[Video Info]
Decoder - (MPEG2) ffdshow Video Decoder
Format - Major Type: Video - Sub Type: RGB32
VideoInfo2: RGB 1280X-768, 32 bits

[Audio Info]
Decoder - (0x2000) Sonic Cinemaster® Audio Decoder 4.2
Format - Major Type: Audio - Sub Type: PCM
WaveFormatEx: PCM(0x1), 48000 Hz, 16 Bits, 2 Ch

[Basic Video DSP]
Internal brightness: 100%

[Advanced Video DSP]
+Video Plugin

[Audio DSP]
+Pre amplification: Main: (100%)
+Audio Plugin

[Subtitle Settings]
+Draw Mode(Selected): VMR
+Draw Mode(In use): On Overlay
+Text Rendering Method: Rasterizer
+Support HTML Tags(SMI)

[KMPlayer]
+Version: 2.9.3.1429(5,559,296, 12/16/2007 9:55:38 PM)
+libcodec.dll: Exist(4,459,520, 12/16/2007 1:07:46 AM)
+libmplay.dll: Exist(438,784, 8/21/2007 11:11:32 PM)
+PProcDLL.dll: Exist(1,769,472, 12/1/2007 12:52:44 AM)
+LibDTS.dll: Exist(144,384, 5/24/2007 10:01:04 AM)
+liba52.dll: Exist(56,320, 5/24/2007 10:00:52 AM)
+libfaad2.dll: Exist(212,480, 5/24/2007 10:00:28 AM)
+libmad.dll: Exist(92,672, 5/24/2007 10:01:18 AM)
+libmpeg2.dll: Exist(126,464, 5/24/2007 10:01:46 AM)
+theora.dll: Exist(196,608, 4/13/2007 9:46:04 AM)
+OggVorbis.dll: Exist(1,165,312, 5/24/2007 10:08:26 AM)
+xviddll.dll: Exist(655,872, 7/29/2007 2:11:58 AM)
+Old_QUARTZ.DLL: Exist(770,048, 5/5/1999 11:22:00 PM)
+AboutDll.dll: Exist(105,472, 10/3/2005 3:12:18 PM)
+DTView.dll: Exist(104,448, 11/20/2006 10:33:20 PM)
+MPlayer.dll: Missed
+ImLoader.dll: Exist(856,064, 1/15/2006 3:21:26 PM)


--------------------
[File Info]
--------------------
Complete name : Bee.Movie.mkv
Format : Mk
File size : 2.92 GiB
PlayTime : 1h 30mn
Bit rate : 4602 Kbps
Movie name : Bee Movie (2007)
Encoded date : UTC 2008-04-27 20:14:13
Writing application : mkvmerge v2.2.0 ('Turn It On Again') built on Mar 4 2008 12:58:26
Writing library : libebml v0.7.7 + libmatroska v0.8.1
Video #1
Codec : MPEG-4 AVC
Codec/Info : MPEG4 ISO advanced profile
PlayTime : 1h 30mn
Width : 1272 pixels
Height : 712 pixels
Display Aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Language : English
Audio #2
Codec : AC3
Codec/Info : Dolby AC3
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Sampling rate : 48 KHz
Language : English
Audio #5
Codec : A_AAC
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 48 KHz
Title : Director Comments
Language : English
Text #3
Codec : UTF-8
Codec/Info : UTF-8 Plain Text
Language : English
Text #4
Codec : UTF-8
Codec/Info : UTF-8 Plain Text
Language : Norwegian Nynorsk
Chapters
Language : English

--------------------
[System Info]
--------------------
CPU 0: 3457MHz, Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E4700 @ 2.60GHz, x86 Family 6 Model 15 Stepping 11
CPU 1: 3458MHz, Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E4700 @ 2.60GHz, x86 Family 6 Model 15 Stepping 11
OS: Windows XP Professional(Version 5.1 Build 2600) Service Pack 2
Video: ATI Radeon HD 2600 PRO

DirectX: 9.0c(4.09.00.0904)
Memory: All: 2,096,492 KB, Available: 1,430,224 KB, Used: 32%
CodePage: 1252, Charset:1
Instruction: MMX MMX2 SSE SSE2 SSE3 64Bits

[scratchy]

also, randomly my mouse pointer is corrupt with KMP + HR ?!

I got HR set to 256mb/256 frames....gonna try to set it to 200/200....maybe it's due to a lack of memory ?

and also my mouse cursor shows up for no reason in a middle of a movie...

these 2 issues never happened with MPC HC + EVR before....

such a struggle to get a HTPC working :(

[Pantuflo]

Reduce the frame numbers up to the lowest value in Haali's Video Renderer configuration.

Do the subtitles work with VMR9 video renderer and subtitles in VMR mode?

[scratchy]

yeah sorry, I should have mentioned that I did my homework before whining here :D

-min settings in HR, still no subs
-VMR9, still no subs
-any flavor of "on screen",gdi, ALT+V....same old, same old

even enabling the KMP video transform filter or resetting KMP doesn't help

oh well, I can live with the KMP Mastroska Splitter I think....

just wondering why mad gets a "embedded subtitles" menu, and I don't :(

[mouse]

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[scratchy]

goddamn, you're good!!!!

I'm gonna ask the ffdshow team to disable that stupid option :D

thank you so much!

I still don't know why my mouse pointer shows up in the middle of a movie ?!
never happened with MPC HC + EVR

I've assigned a program called "nomousy" to one of the buttons on my mouse.......very pratical :D

and I've set HR to 128/120 instead of 256/256, this was smoother than ever with Reclock@24 and pstrip@48 ...... hopefully this will also fix my randomly corrupted mouse pointer problem as well :D

[mouse]

Hey, I'm not your mouse. :p

[scratchy]

hehe :cool:

btw, is it possible to override the vertical placement of ASS/SSA subs ?

it seems to only work for SRT :(

[Pantuflo]

is it possible to override the vertical placement of ASS/SSA subs ?

If you have the external subtitles module enabled, enable "Force user's font settings" too.

[scratchy]

are you sure ?

if I do that, I get a tiny font instead of a big one..........but I still can't move it vertically :(

[Pantuflo]

I get a tiny font instead of a big one
That's because you enabled "Force user's font settings"... (and you have a small size in font settings).

I still can't move it vertically
Maybe it's because font styles embedded in .ssa format. I realized that KMP can only change the vertical position when "default" style is used.

So... you can either disable external subtitles module or edit the .ssa subtitles file (after de-muxing the .mkv file) and add a suitable margin.

[scratchy]

ahhhhhhhh, you're right.......thanks for the heads up :p

I can move ASS/SSA subs vertically with the KMP Matroska Reader + the internal subs parser.

the only fix I found in MPC HC/Vobsub was to extract and convert them to SRT...annoying :(

when properly set, KMPlayer is really the best player around......and when you match it with Reclock/ffdshow/EVR......it's dynamite :cool:

only annoying issue is when KMP freezes at shutdown.........I've tried to toggle the "open a new thread to avoid freeze" option, but it doesn't work too well :(

[scratchy]

oh well, Haali's Splitter is much smoother, whatever with EVR or HR....

so I'm back to demuxing ASS/SSA, and converting it to SRT I guess :D

[Pantuflo]

I'm back to demuxing ASS/SSA, and converting it to SRT I guess
If you are going to convert the subtitles to text subtitles (not formatted like ASS/SSA) you can use "Rebuild and save subtitles" in KMP to save them in .smi format.

[mouse]

Haali's splitter + internal sub-parser works well though.

you can use "Rebuild and save subtitles" in KMP to save them in .smi format
It's impossible to do that with embedded ass subs.

[Pantuflo]

It's impossible to do that with embedded ass subs.
Maybe it's only possible in my computer or my .mkv samples are wrong.

[mouse]

Hmm...

I've checked that function again and confirmed KMP converts the subtitle streams only stripped in subtitle explorer. It's incomplete. :)

[scratchy]

so you can move ASS/SSA subs vertically with the "KMP Matroska Reader", but not with the external subs reader ? :(

If you are going to convert the subtitles to text subtitles (not formatted like ASS/SSA) you can use "Rebuild and save subtitles" in KMP to save them in .smi format.

OK thanks for the tip, I'll run more tests :cool: